Category talk:Izihloko

Creating top-level categories as in EN WP

These are top-level categories in EN WP that we need in ZU WP.
Help needed:

• - What names to give them in isiZulu? => type the name next to the EN category => Category:ZU NAME
• - For the existing ZU WP categories: => If correct, remove the question mark (?). If not, do that and type the correct name!

Hierarchy of top-level categories in EN and ZU:

• en:Category:Articles => Category:Izihloko
  • en:Category:Main topic classifications => category:Izigaba
    • en:Category:Arts => Category:Ubuciko
    • en:Category:Culture => Category:Isiko
    • en:Category:Events => Category:Izigameko
    • en:Category:Games => Category:Imidlalo - These are board games (mancala, chess), card games, children's games in a circle...
    • en:Category:Geography => Category:Ezezwe
    • en:Category:Health => Category:Impilo Category:Ezempilo The word health word can also be written as Ezempilo to distingish it from life.
    • en:Category:History => Category:Umlando
    • en:Category:Humanities => Category:Ezobuntu - Includes various academic studies; click on the English for subcategories.
    • en:Category:Law => Category:Umthetho
    • en:Category:Life => Category:Impilo - This one is correct for the context
    • en:Category:Mathematics => Category:Izibalo
    • en:Category:Matter => Category:Udaba = wrong context In the sense of the physical sciences; see EN examples
    • en:Category:Nature => Category:Imvelo
    • en:Category:People => Category:Abantu
    • en:Category:Philosophy => Category:Inkolelo
    • en:Category:Politics => Category:Ezombusazwe
    • en:Category:Reference works => Category:Umthombo - This one is more appropriate. In this context 'Umthombo' means 'Source'. The word 'Inkomba' does not exist in the Zulu language, it is a Xhosa word for 'symptom'.
    • :en:Category:References => Category:Izinkomba Category for deletion, was deleted also in EN WP
    • en:Category:Religion => Category:Inkolo
    • en:Category:Science and Technology => Category:Ezobuchwepheshe
    • en:Category:Society => Category:Inhlangano
    • en:Category:Sports => Category:Ezemidlalo Context correct.
    • en:Category:World => Category:Umhlaba Not the sense of the planet Earth but everything in "the whole world"; see examples in EN.

I will monitor the suggestions and create the new categories, connect them to Wikidata items, and then "populate" the new categories with existing pages in ZU WP. -- Deborahjay (talk) 12:07, 12 uMandulo 2017 (UTC)

Hi Deborahjay I have translated the best I can, but there are still words which I am not sure about, those have been indicated with a (?) in the list. I will still do some research on the words indicated. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:28, 12 uMandulo 2017 (UTC)

Njabulo, this is great work, thank you so much for your help! I'm checking carefully - see my queries in small print by some of the red-text suggestions, based on some other words I've seen in Google Translate by changing contexts (e.g. "Matter"!). By clicking on the English WP link at the left side of each line, you'll see the subcategories for that main category - I think that will help confirm the particular meaning when there might be alternatives. Thanks for reviewing these. I've also invited User:Fiso.dlamini to join in. -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:46, 12 uMandulo 2017 (UTC)

Deb, I've just had a very long debate with my team about this.

I agree with Njabulo on some translations. I have also corrected him on others.

Context is a problem sometimes.

Where event means en:Category: Ceremony, we call it Category:Umcimbi

The translation for Matter you got here means Issue. I will consult with my team to get the Scientific context.

Fiso.dlamini (talk) 21:20, 12 uMandulo 2017 (UTC)

Hey Deb, I've made a few edits. I'm still struggling with the appropriate word for 'Matter', but I'm hoping to find it soon.

Fiso.dlamini (talk) 16:02, 14 uNhlangulana 2019 (UTC)