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Proposed category name change[Hlela umthombo]

I am proposing name change for Amabhendi weMzansi to Amaqembu omculo baseNingizimu Afrika15:36, 14 uLwezi 2017 (UTC)

Well, it looks like (today at 15:20) you created Category:Amaqembu omculo aseNingizimu Afrika - which spelling is correct? (ase / base) Let me know, and I'll make the rest of the necessary changes. -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:21, 14 uLwezi 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Also - please see queries about names of some new categories, at Category talk:Ababhali besiZulu‎. Thanks! -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:14, 16 uLwezi 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deborahjay , the correct spelling is for the newly created category is ase. Njabulo19 (talk) 18:06, 22 uLwezi 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the category updates. Thanks for checking in here! -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:32, 22 uLwezi 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wording for births and deaths in isiZulu[Hlela umthombo]

Greetings, Njabulo - it's great to see you editing! There are several important topics whose terms need approval - perhaps they were never checked by a native speaker of isiZulu. NOTE: YYYY means the calendar year in four numerals. So I'm listing them here:

  • A category that's supposed to mean "Births in YYYY" (meaning: People born in that year)
  • A category that's supposed to mean "Deaths in YYYY" (meaning: People who died that year)
  • Also, each year has a page with three section headings (to add content by month and day, example: 2001):
  • Izehlakalo (Events in this year) - see the example of the year 2001
  • Abazalwayo (Births in this year) - the people's names (link to page) are added with their birthdays
  • Abafileyo (Deaths in this year) - the people's names (link to page) are added with their date of death

There will be some related questions later, but these are the most urgent for now. I hope they're clear - feel free to ask any questions you may have. Thank you! -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:49, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HI Deborahjay, with regards to queries you have presented I will answer two of them as I do not understand the last question.
Thank you. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:10, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! - and I've added some explanations above I hope will help with the third question. This is something done in other Wikipedias (example: en:2001) but just starting here. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:20, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Izehlakalo (is correct to use).
  • Abazalwayo => Abazalwa
  • Abafileyo=>Abafa
I hope I gave you an expected answer. Thank you Njabulo19 (talk) 19:35, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, and thanks to you we'll have all these corrections in place before the new year! And I also have seen the one instance of Category:Abafa nge-1976 - it's your creation, together with a truly important article for the Zulu WP. -- Deborahjay (talk) 19:49, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That is indeed an important article and category.Njabulo19 (talk) 19:55, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Soshanguve vs. Isoshanguve[Hlela umthombo]

Please check the two pages listed on Talk:Isoshanguve and answer there: Do they belong on one page? If so, which name is the more correct? -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:12, 19 uZibandlela 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Day and month[Hlela umthombo]

Hello and Happy New Year to you, @Njabulo19:! I have a question about how we're writing the month and day in Date of Birth/Date of Death. In your new article on Robbie Malinga you wrote: "08 kuLwezi 1968 - 25 kuZibandlela 2017." However, on many existing pages this would be written "08 ngoLwezi 1968 - 25 ngoZibandlela 2017." I'm hoping this is correct, because it was already made the standard before my time - and also affects the name of individual pages for each day, e.g. 17 ngoMandulo that I improved just now. So please explain how we'll solve this. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 21:53, 3 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deborahjay and happy new year to you too. With regards to the query you have raised about writing day and month, to tell you the truth I am also confused as to when to use Ku- or Ngo-. I will be asking from my fellow isiZulu speakers as to when to use of the prefixes. Thank you. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:41, 4 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)
Hello User:Deborahjay, regarding the confusion I had about how to write the day and month (ku- or ngu-) I have found that the correct way to write is ngo- Njabulo19 (talk) 10:39, 28 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)
This is great news, because "ngo-" is already used on the great majority of pages. I'm continuing to create pages and categories for days and months, and I'm sure I'll bring more specific questions soon. -- 17:17, 28 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)

I like the dedication you have in this wiki, you have made a tremendous contribution. I will be answering any question that you ask and I will provide help. Njabulo19 (talk) 17:47, 28 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the appreciation and collaboration - yesterday I started my seventh month here. I have higher goals for my second half-year. We'll see meaningful improvement in the future when biography and history content will grow, to which you already contribute. -- Deborahjay (talk) 18:45, 28 Umasingana 2018 (UTC)

Happy seventh month anniversary User:Deborahjay- I will also contribute as much as I can to the biographies as my dream is to also see this Wiki grow further than it is now. Njabulo19 (talk) 15:33, 1 uNhlolanja 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little late, but I wanted to congratulate you and User:Deborahjay (seventh month anniversary) for the dedication to this project. Congratulations! DARIO SEVERI (talk) 05:30, 6 uNhlolanja 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DARIO SEVERI, I want say thank you for the congratulations. I still want to contribute more on this wiki so that it will be taken further. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:16, 7 uMbasa 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Decades and centuries (ZU)[Hlela umthombo]

Greetings, Njabulo19! For the next step in organizing categories here, I need to know how to write the following terms in isiZulu:

  • Decades = Iminyaka eyishumi
  • Centuries = Ikhulu leminyaka
    • 15th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-15 (Ikhulu leminyaka eyishumi nesihlanu)
    • 16th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-16 (Ikhulu leminyaka eyishumi nesithupha)
    • 17th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-17 (Ikhulu leminyaka eyisishumi nesikhombisa)
    • 18th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-18 (Ikhulu leminyaka eyishumi nesishiyagombili)
    • 19th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-19 (Ikhulu leminyaka eysishumi nesishiyagalolunye)
    • 20th century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-20 (Ikhulu leminyaka engamashumi amabili)
    • 21st century = Ikhulu leminyaka engama-21 (Ikhulu leminyaka engamashumi amabili nanye)

I've linked them to their item in Wikidata so you can click to see the English examples. This information will keep me busy for some days at least. Thank you! -- Deborahjay (talk) 20:37, 5 uNhlolanja 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deborahjay It has been too long since I last logged in. I see the categories you have put up, for now I do not have the direct translations for them but as soon as I get the translations I will be translating them. unsigned comment added 19:20 7 uMbasaNdasa 2018 by User:Njabulo19
Hi Deborahjay, I have supplied IsiZulu meanings to the above words. I the italics are the full translations to the English words. Njabulo19 (talk) 13:42, 1 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]
These are greatly helpful - I'll soon make the missing categories grouped into their higher levels (decades, centuries). The goal is to get rid of a LOT of red links for now-missing categories. Expect an explosion in Izinguquko ezimanje! -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 15:10, 1 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I always like to help where I can even though I am not always available, I am currently busy at work, but whenever I find time I will always come and check all what is happening in the Wiki. I will be looking for the changes you will be bringing in. Regards. Njabulo19 (talk) 18:24, 1 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: All the above categories have been created and added to Wikidata. Now to populate them with years. -- Deborahjay (talk) 11:07, 5 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page section headings in isiZulu[Hlela umthombo]

It's great to see you contributing again! The ZU WP needs to standardize two section headings:
References (sources of the information) presently has two translations, which is the better one?

  • Imithombo (139 uses)
  • Izinkomba (15 uses)

Also, for External (web) links:

  • Izixhumanisi zangaphandle (example: a link to a map of Dassenhoek)
  • Izihlanganisi ezingaphandle (alternative)

Your advice is valuable, I'll watch for it and then make the recommended changes. Hoping to make more progress soon! -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 20:11, 30 uNdasa 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HiDeborahjay, regarding the word references, the two words in isiZulu are both correct, but for the sake of clarity I feel like we should use Imithombo for references. On the other one External Links we can say Izihlanganisi ezingaphandle. Njabulo19 (talk) 13:27, 1 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm happy to adopt your advice and make these changes systematically. It's a welcome change from improving what I've been finding in Ikhasi elingaphandle kokucabanga. -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:15, 1 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: all changes standardized. -- Deborahjay (talk) 17:18, 3 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Further update: strikethrough disused options in examples above, for future reference. -- Deborahjay (talk) 07:20, 11 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HI Deborahjay, I have looked at your edits and I wish to commend you on your dedication to the wiki. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:31, 11 uNhlaba 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1000th article[Hlela umthombo]

Congratulations on creating the 1000th article in Zulu! Are you at Wikimania in Cape Town by any chance? Greenman (talk) 09:24, 19 uNtulikazi 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Greenman I appreciate the congratulations on the reaching the 1000th article and thanks for the article you wrote in your blog. A special thanks also goes to Deborahjay who is the most active member in isiZulu Wikipedia. I am not at at the Wikimania. Regards Njabulo19 (talk) 11:01, 19 uNtulikazi 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Njabulo19 (M.N.), thank you for your considerate mention of me here. This past year, you have been the most active contributor who's a native speaker of isiZulu - so it's a great outcome that you made the new pages that moved the ZU WP into the 1000+ category and were given recognition at the Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town. I look forward to future coordination with Wikimedia ZA to recruit and train more native speakers, and to getting institutional help for non-speaker contributors like myself, so we can keep growing the ZU WP project. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 16:27, 23 uNtulikazi 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Deborahjay I wish to congratulate you on oen yeare anniversary on isiZulu Wikipdeia, your effort are pretty much appreciated. It would be a good step to get as many native isiZulu speakers to this wiki as this will increase the number of articles and help complete all incomeplete articles. Here to another year in isiZulu Wikipedia. Njabulo19 (talk) 19:40, 23 uNtulikazi 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your feedback is needed - Improving the Content Translation tool[Hlela umthombo]

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